tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869270039519917139.post9222907891617530664..comments2023-12-12T18:22:11.241-05:00Comments on Hoodooed: Suncoast Sierra Club's Gulf Truth Forum Did Not Speak Truth--Scientists on Their Panel Have Studies Funded by BPAnita Stewarthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13793278123231616101noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869270039519917139.post-56312911116416338092010-11-20T16:23:45.456-05:002010-11-20T16:23:45.456-05:00@ Trisha.
"IF YOU ARE EATING THE FISH FROM T...@ Trisha.<br /><br />"IF YOU ARE EATING THE FISH FROM THE GULF I HOPE YOU CHOKE ON IT."<br /><br />Very sweet of you to wish me harm. Are you really a registered nurse hoping I choke? That boggles my mind.<br /><br />@Anita<br /><br />WRITING IN ALL CAPS ONLINE IS CONSIDERED YELLING - I apologize for yelling at you to make this point.<br /><br />@ Anonymous<br /><br />I don't work for BP. <br /><br />@ anyone that cares to listen.<br /><br />I volunteered for the Sierra Club to help with the question and answer section of the forum. I know that none of the questions were censored because I was the person collecting, sorting and asking them. There is actually a picture of me on this site asking the questions. So when I say you are lying that questions were censored, you are lying. That's a fact. There was one question left over after the forum about oil eating bacteria. The man that submitted the question was introduced to the scientists that could best answer his question after the forum. The only reason I did not read it out loud was because by the time he handed me the question, we were already in the second panel (ie the scientists had left the room). He was not angry and appreciated the fact that I sought him out to get his question answered. Not one person complained to me during the forum about the question and answer format. If there was a problem, why did you not come to me? I could have worked something out. I'm an extremely reasonable person. Instead you create conspiracy theories about the Sierra Club, and me, surpressing information. Also, the scientists at USF are highly esteemed in their fields and gave up their personal time with no compensation to share their research. I think the public owes them a thank you, not a blog post such as this calling them liars.<br />Lastly, I've been involved with the Sierra Club as a member and volunteer for a long time. The staff of the Club is highly motivated and hard working. We owe them our gratitude. The Club is a bottom up organization. It's the members at the local level that set the agenda. It's impossible for the Club to be bought and owned by an individual, a foundation, or a corporation because of this bottom up structure. All are welcomed at the monthly membership meetings. I encourage you to attend a meeting so that you may meet some of your neighbors that Explore, Enjoy, and Protect the planet. I think you'll find you have a lot in common with them if you come with an open mind.<br /><br />Best of luck exposing the horrible human health toll that the Gulf oil disaster wrought on our neighbors. I mean that. Get the word out, but please don't try to disrupt other people's hard work to do so. It's counterproductive. <br /><br />Finally, I will not be posting anymore to this blog as the false accusations and threats have left me rather annoyed. <br /><br />Sifting through the sandbox for lost treasures - BBBacon Boynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869270039519917139.post-152631839879212572010-11-20T13:38:04.770-05:002010-11-20T13:38:04.770-05:00The Sierra Club is a joke. BP absolutely loves &qu...The Sierra Club is a joke. BP absolutely loves "environmental groups" and their "experts" who sat around and debated things dispassionately as the Gulf died, and many Gulf residents die a slow, perfectly concealed death from "missing oil" and dispersant poisoning. The BP agents (and you are, whether you know it or not) commenting need to stand down because it is obvious that you have no concern for the real impacts this disaster has had and is having on those who live in the region.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869270039519917139.post-79798544793646510082010-11-20T13:10:27.137-05:002010-11-20T13:10:27.137-05:00Hey BACON BOY,
I HANDED PHOTOS STRAIGHT TO THE EL...Hey BACON BOY, <br />I HANDED PHOTOS STRAIGHT TO THE ELITE PHDS AND MY QUESTIONS WERE NOT ADDRESSED, I MADE THE SCENE WHILE WALKING OUT. THE SIERRA CLUB IS OWNED BY CLOROX AND MUNITIONS CORPORATIONS. ALL OUR QUESTIONS WERE SENSORED. I WAS BAITED AND SILENCED BY PHIL AND YOU ARE A LIAR. <br />I WAS CALLED HYSTERICAL...YOU HAVEN'T SEEN HYSTERICAL WHEN I GET THIS TO ALL THE PRESS. I AM YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE, I WILL NOT BE SILENCED EVER. <br />WHILE WE TALK ABOUT THE BIRDS, THE BEES, THE CORAL, THE EGGS PEOPLE ARE LYING IN MORGUES, CHILDREN ILL AND DYING. IF YOU ARE EATING THE FISH FROM THE GULF I HOPE YOU CHOKE ON IT. <br />TRISHA SPRINGSTEAD RN MSTrisha Springstead RNhttp://www.morgellonsreport.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869270039519917139.post-85192489736663504902010-11-19T21:48:15.416-05:002010-11-19T21:48:15.416-05:00To answer both comments, we already have someone s...To answer both comments, we already have someone speaking with Mote and they were kind enough to take our information when we offered it. I am not angry or fighting with anyone, this article simply stated facts. Who is yelling? Not me. I did present information. I did give my information. It was not even acknowledged and I have to wonder if any of it was read. There have certainly been no comments on any of it in my email inbox. I did not write the article on the Examiner. And I was told that there could possibly be 5 minutes devoted to the Human Element at the forum after that article was published. I have that in an email. I am not fighting with anyone. Rather I am being accused of yelling, being loud, and accusatory. How is that when I just wrote an article? Your panelists lied, they take money from BP, people are sick and dying, those are facts. I want to know why it is considered yelling and fighting when I am stating those facts presented in my article?Anita Stewarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13793278123231616101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869270039519917139.post-53439740255787507042010-11-19T15:48:25.909-05:002010-11-19T15:48:25.909-05:00I am sure questions re: public health were not ask...I am sure questions re: public health were not asked because the panelists, a marine biologist, a chemical oceanographer and a physical oceanographer, had no expertise in that area and, therefore, were not qualified to answer. There are so many issues related to the Gulf Spill that it would be impossible to cover them all in one forum. It was clear from the outset, although apparently not to Ms Stewart, what topics were going to be covered that night. No claims that all matters relating to the Gulf crisis would be discussed ever was made. Sierra Club did an excellent job of provding scientific information to the public. If Ms Stewart wants to present a forum on public health I encourage her to do so. I am sure Sierra won't be inclined to do another one after this nonsense.<br /><br />I must add that Ms Stewart's conduct is typical of the Pinellas progressive community which appears to be too busy fighting each other to fight the real enemies. This is why they continue to lose and why so many activists burn out and give up. Even when we do not agree 100% on everything WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME SIDE. Gratuitous insults and accusations hurt our cause.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869270039519917139.post-51863323847559086742010-11-19T15:46:43.760-05:002010-11-19T15:46:43.760-05:00http://www.mote.org/index.php?src=directory&vi...http://www.mote.org/index.php?src=directory&view=topic&srctype=detail&refno=1120&category=Science<br /><br />Are you going to protest this forum, too? It's many of the same scientists sharing their research. Or are you going to learn from this experience and contact the hosts and calmly and politely ask to set up a meeting with them to share your thoughts on how you can be valuable to the discussion? Or will you and your colleagues blast the organizers of the forum on the internet before making an attempt to meet with them, like this time? Will you then follow up with more bashing of the event on the internet again? <br /><br />Stop being loud, mean, and accusatory and somebody might stop what they are doing and listen to you.<br /><br />You have important information to share about the impacts of this spill on human health and you choose to yell at and fire false accusations at people that normally would be open to working with you. <br /><br />Here is a bit of wisdom I learned a long time ago doing advocacy work: Don't piss off the people that can give you what you want. They will never give you the time of day again. Did you really expect to get time in the agenda during the forum after that article on examiner.com was published? <br /><br />From the sandbox... BBBacon Boynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869270039519917139.post-73777130275824804332010-11-19T13:00:08.161-05:002010-11-19T13:00:08.161-05:00There is nothing false about this article, I repor...There is nothing false about this article, I reported facts and I was sitting in the 2nd row. There is no controversy. The questions were cherry picked and the questions that were not acceptable were not read aloud.<br /><br />THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE SICK AND DYING AND THE HEALTH HAZARDS ARE BEING IGNORED SUPERSEDES ANYTHING YOU CAN SAY ON THIS TOPIC!<br /><br />ANGRY? The licensed medical professionals SHOULD be!<br /><br />The scientists studies are funded by BP, that is a FACT! I provided the link to the approved and projected projects and the $$$ for each...<br /><br />The forum never brought up SICK AND DYING PEOPLE and the PUBLIC HEALTH HAZARDS. This information was SUPPRESSED and the people/attendees that needed to have the information did not get it--because SCIENTIFIC PEOPLE SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE COULD NOT SPEAK. I sat through the FORUM with lab results including FINGERPRINT TESTS in my hand and I did hand them out and gave a copy to each of the scientists.<br /><br />But most of the people in that room did not get the info that they needed to have. If you think the info that the public needs to have consists of the size of plumes or relocation of turtle eggs, that is not what the people wanted or needed to hear.<br /><br />The Sierra Club serves $$$ and not the masses.<br /><br />It is PROFITS before PEOPLE!<br /><br />If you think that it is anything different, then you need to sit in that sandbox with a diaper on.Anita Stewarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13793278123231616101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869270039519917139.post-63004737925926828792010-11-19T11:25:07.713-05:002010-11-19T11:25:07.713-05:00This critique is unfair and full of falsehoods. T...This critique is unfair and full of falsehoods. The author and her colleagues that attended the forum made up their minds that they were unhappy with the forum before talking to anyone involved or attending as evidenced by the "controversy" they created on Examiner.com. <br /><br />First, not one question was censored. Each question given to the moderator was asked verbatim to the panelists. Nothing was "cherry picked". This was clearly explained at the forum. Similar questions were grouped so that the panelists could focus on one thing at a time. Each card was handed out the panelists so they could read and answer them. With a room of 200 people this format actually worked well to get as many questions answered as possible. If microphones are handed out in the crowd, it is inevitable that one or two people will control the entire question and answer time. The use of cards also gives people that would not feel comfortable asking a question in front of that many people a voice. The panelists and the crowd overwhelmingly supported the question and answer format.<br /><br />Second, the first question of the night from the audience asked if the scientists were funded by BP. The answer was "no". Clear as day. Then why include in the title of this blog "scientists on their panel have studies funded by BP"? More false "controversy". <br /><br />Third, humans were not left out of the forum. All of the information shared at the forum has implications for the people that live along the Gulf coast. That's the whole reason the forum was created.<br /><br />Lastly, holding a forum of this size and importance is no easy task. Instead of being a Monday morning quarterback, I suggest the author and her colleagues hold their own public forum to deal with any issues that did not make it into the 2 and 1/2 hour agenda of this forum. There are many important issues involving the Gulf oil spill. All of them deserve attention. <br /><br />It's a big old sandbox. Quit throwing sand and start building your own castle.bacon boynoreply@blogger.com